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Poll: Donation (228 member(s) have cast votes)

How much can you donate?

  1. Less than 200 USD (110 votes [48.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.46%

  2. +200 USD (43 votes [18.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.94%

  3. +300 USD (36 votes [15.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.86%

  4. +400 USD (14 votes [6.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.17%

  5. +500 USD (12 votes [5.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.29%

  6. +750 USD (11 votes [4.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.85%

  7. +1000 USD (1 votes [0.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.44%

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#1 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:33 AM

Dear developers,

 

We may try to make an OEM agreement with Sencha soon. To achieve this we need to dedicate enough funds. It will be great if anyone can specify the amount they can donate to uniGUI project so we can achieve the agreement with Sencha as soon as we can.

 

Answers to some of your questions:

  • The donated money will be used to achieve the OEM agreement.
  • The donated amount will be kept in a database and will be considered as a prepayment for your future purchases.
  • We will also provide special discounts for your early donations.
  • If you already have a valid Sencha Ext JS license we will provide you a one time special discount. ( We will verify validation of your license with Sencha )

At the moment I only ask you to vote for the poll.

 

Thanks for your support.

Farshad Mohajeri


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#2 Ronny Encarnacion

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

Could you tell us the minimun amount you will need that every member of these forum could donate

 

Thanks 


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#3 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 01:00 PM

Could you tell us the minimun amount you will need that every member of these forum could donate

 

Thanks 

 

I can't say an exact amount, but amounts more than 300USD is appreciated.


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#4 agmoro7622

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

Hello,

what methods of payment do you accept? eg google checkout or paypal or credit cards..

Thanks


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#5 Maher Ahmad

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:02 PM

+1


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#6 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:19 PM

Hello,

what methods of payment do you accept? eg google checkout or paypal or credit cards..

Thanks

 

I will announce it when I'm willing to accept donations. PayPal will to be the primary source.


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#7 Alberto vesx

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:18 PM

I am a little confused. I already have a sencha licence, so in my case I need to pay again or only for UNIGUI?


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#8 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

I am a little confused. I already have a sencha licence, so in my case I need to pay again or only for UNIGUI?


Please see 4.
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#9 Felix

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

Dear Farshad.
 
You've really created a great tool, and you should charge for your work, but I think that before requesting financial assistance,you should tell us the amount you are going to  charge for the license.
 
I see your suggest for price, and I think that you will charge very expensive.
 
You must think that for small developers can be an expensive investment, and we must know if we can pay the Sencha and Unigui licenses. 
If the sum of the two licenses is very high, I personally will use other tools even if they are harder in use, but free of charge, or even work in Microsoft Webforms Net.
I am sure many programmers think as me.

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#10 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:54 AM

Dear Farshad.
 
You've really created a great tool, and you should charge for your work, but I think that before requesting financial assistance,you should tell us the amount you are going to  charge for the license.
 
I see your suggest for price, and I think that you will charge very expensive.
 
You must think that for small developers can be an expensive investment, and we must know if we can pay the Sencha and Unigui licenses. 
If the sum of the two licenses is very high, I personally will use other tools even if they are harder in use, but free of charge, or even work in Microsoft Webforms Net.
I am sure many programmers think as me.

 

With Ext JS OEM license included the minimum price for a single seat will be ~700USD.

 

I believe that it is a small investment if you develop commercial web application.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:09 AM

If I may speak frankly it's expensive. After the decision of excluding VCL mode UniGUI will be very similar to Ext.NET.
Ext.NET Single Developer Bundle (included Sencha Ext JS Commercial License, 1 Year Premium Support Subscription) and with full source code costs $495.
UniGUI is a wonderful tool that very well suited for my tasks. So I made ​​a firm decision under any circumstances, to purchase it. But it seems that for many others (especially small developers that  will use UniGUI for web development only) it will be a difficult choice.

 

Regards


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#12 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:47 AM

700-495 = 200USD

 

Is 200 USD difference the main problem here?

 

Everything in world of Delphi is more expensive than world on .NET including the development tool itself. Just compare the price of Delphi itself with VS. It is because Delphi has a tiny market share compared with .NET.

 

If price was the main criterion we all have switched to .NET years ago.

 

As a note the last time I checked EXT:NET coding in it is not  easy at all. You need to code manually and design interface is not far from being WYSISWYG.


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#13 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:54 AM

 But it seems that for many others (especially small developers that  will use UniGUI for web development only) it will be a difficult choice.

 

Regards

 

Can you help me understand what price tag would fit best the "small developers" group? Why does it make a difficult choice.

 

As I told above, if you develop and sell commercial web apps, such investments are tiny unless you sell your project for peanuts.

 

Consider that both uniGUI and Ext JS are royalty free. Invest once, sell many!


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#14 Gerhard Kimmeringer

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:06 AM

I think also, we have the power of Delphi, can use many of code what we have

and it is more than ok that the price is higher.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:17 AM

When I say "small developers" it can be for example freelancers. But of course you're right - in this case, $ 200 is not a significant. Personally, I'm willing to pay that price for the convenience of working with UniGUI.


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#16 rullomare

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:30 AM

Hi  Mr. Farshad,
 
in a previous post you said that the price for the commercial version of Unigui will be about  700-1000 Usd  with Ext JS OEM license included.
 
 
I think for many of Us (single developer) the price is a to high, but considering the great job, the price could be acceptable. 
 
My idea: We donate, anticipate 400-500 Usd and will receive the Full source code Of Unigui  (eg 0.94 version).
 
When the commercial version of Unigui  will be ready, we could get it  by paying the difference.
 
 
best regards
 
Salvatore Marullo   

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#17 estrify

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:06 AM

700 USD is ok if it includes sources and support but (and, please, take in a constructive sense the following lines, keeping in mind that I love UniGUI)...

 

The problem here is that UniGUI components are really great but are somewhat simple. For any "advanced" feature, we have to do it directly with ExtJS. With a small project, its ok, but with a medium or large project is somewhat difficult so Delphi Code + JavaScript Code must be maintained given that JS access, global visualization and depuration is not agile at all.

 

This is why we think that UniGUI must have much more components, with much more options and properties, to minimize the usage of custom JS to those cases really needed, not for common functionalities. As example, we miss at least:

 

  • More sophisticated toolbar (vertical/horizontal, overflow, switcher, button group, with controls, panel mode, etc.)
  • More list components (Check/Radio Lists, columns, parameters item editor, native images and internal value systems,  etc.)
  • More tree components ([Check]Treelist, [Check]treegrid, parameter node editors, etc.)
  • More sophisticated buttons
  • More sophisticated tips
  • More sophisticated editors (with masks, clear buttons, direct calculated value, etc.)
  • ...
  • ...

 

700 USD is Ok, but it is a price level for whose this set of components should be rather more complete.

 

Regards,


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#18 Farshad Mohajeri

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:14 AM

I added two more choices. You can change your vote if you want to select one of the new options.


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#19 Mohammed Nasman

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

For the prices, I think you should have at least two options, Standard and Pro, standard has no source while pro has it

 

Standard price will be responsible for around $450 - $500

and Pro version for $700-$800.

 

you can also have more expensive version which aimed at enterprise customers.


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#20 mohammad

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:22 PM

I think ~750$ is fair enough....

 

I think a great efforts been invested in unigui and I love it....
and I think that farshad will continue to improve it...

We can't wait till EVERY thing ( as we want ) is working 100%, I believe that we have to give unigui a chance, and we all know that the future is "web application" and unigui made it so easy for us.

I personally appreciate farshad's work and wish him good luck....:-)


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