XE7 lands

[Harry Rogers]

Five minutes after you get used to the newest release a new one comes along !

 

http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/whats-new

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rencarnacion]

I don't see any reason to upgrade to XE7 I think is Madness of Embarcadero !!

[MariusTurnkey]

Agreed Ronny

 

Upgrade Cost to me:

XE7 Pro Upgrade : $512.10
Firedac Client/Server New: $467.10

If I want to do mobile development:

Mobile Add On Pack: $467.10

 

Total Immediate Cost: $1446.30 (Plus being in South Africa the exchange rate makes this nearly 11 times more: ZAR 15,562.19)

 

Then the "unseen" costs of the time it will take to bring all production systems onto the latest version.

 

I don't think so, I do not see a compelling reason at this stage to assist with Embarcadero's revenue generating activities.

 

In six months time you will need to re-charge again, sorry not now.

[Farshad Mohajeri]

From uniGUI point of view Parallel Computing is the main deal here. With this feature a uniGUI server can take full advantage of all CPU cores.

[Farshad Mohajeri]

Agreed Ronny

 

Upgrade Cost to me:

XE7 Pro Upgrade : $512.10

Firedac Client/Server New: $467.10

If I want to do mobile development:

Mobile Add On Pack: $467.10

 

Total Immediate Cost: $1446.30 (Plus being in South Africa the exchange rate makes this nearly 11 times more: ZAR 15,562.19)

 

Then the "unseen" costs of the time it will take to bring all production systems onto the latest version.

 

I don't think so, I do not see a compelling reason at this stage to assist with Embarcadero's revenue generating activities.

 

In six months time you will need to re-charge again, sorry not now.

 

Go with SA. It is the most cost effective way of staying updated with all new releases.

[Harry Rogers]

I too thought the Parallel Computing stuff looks interesting.

 

I recently changed to a SA. Having previously only upgraded on an ad-hoc basis  (since Delphi1).

I agree though Delphi / Rad studio is getting to be an expensive club to be a member of.

[chefdackel]

From uniGUI point of view Parallel Computing is the main deal here. With this feature a uniGUI server can take full advantage of all CPU cores.

 

ok, and one of my (virtual) servers has 16 of its kind..... ok, name them vCores. So Farshad please explain: Only if upgrading to XE7 an UniGUI application can make use of all cores due to restrictions of older Delphi versions? In the moment I stuck with XE3, but that would be the moment to upgrade to XE7 for the real world applications. 

[Farshad Mohajeri]

ok, and one of my (virtual) servers has 16 of its kind..... ok, name them vCores. So Farshad please explain: Only if upgrading to XE7 an UniGUI application can make use of all cores due to restrictions of older Delphi versions? In the moment I stuck with XE3, but that would be the moment to upgrade to XE7 for the real world applications. 

 

First of all we must implement this feature in uniGUI. I haven't look it at yet, but seems it needs some serious work.on our side.

[chefdackel]

First of all we must implement this feature in uniGUI. I haven't look it at yet, but seems it needs some serious work.on our side.

 

then at the moment a server with more than ....say....8 vCores or something and only used for one UniGUI application makes no sense, because the UniGUI application only uses a fraction of them, although 5 or 10 users are waiting for response? Is there any difference on that fact between Isapi and standalone application? That may mean that a (virtual) server with 8 vCores acts the same as a server with 16 vCores. I just do testing the heavy ones from Strato, Contabo, HostEurope and some others, and this would be an interesting point when rating the results.

[Farshad Mohajeri]

Parallel computing is a whole new topic. We are not limited to XE7 to do this. It can be done in older Delphi versions too. See OmniThreadLibrary.

 

A normal Delphi app runs on a single CPU Core. It does not mean you won't get advantage of other core.s They will be used for I/O and other OS related tasks. Of course, in an 8 core CPU you only get a little power from combined computing power in your Delphi application.

 

That said, as far as uniGUI is concerned, most of time RAM is more vital than CPU power.